Share the Bliss of All-Chakra Lovemaking w/ Dr. Sasha Lessin & Janet Lessin

The Patti Taylor Show, "Expanded Lovemaking" Episode 33
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In this show, hear Dr. Patti talk to Dr. Sasha Lessin and his wife,
Janet Lessin, about All-Chakra Tantra. The Lessins are the founders
of the School of Tantra in Maui, Hawaii, where they teach people to
make love with their whole being, and to unblock any and all stuck
places that get in the way of intimacy, personal power and full
orgasmic presence. Learn what the chakras mean, and how to use them
to create a beautiful lovemaking ceremony. Experience for yourself a
dynamic process that Sasha and Janet use to generate connection using
the seven chakras to send shivers of delight up your spine! You can
feel the energy while listening, and better yet, also reproduce this
in your own home with the handout the Lessins give. Then, tune in as
Sasha gives Janet a reenactment of a full ejaculatory orgasm. Sasha
very specifically goes stroke by stroke over exactly how he evokes
every little nuance and pleasure from Janet's clit and "cave", as
well as creating her "gushing" over the edge. Youwill get lots of
specific ideas. Janet's commentaries on the emotional impact of
Sasha's touches, and her vulnerability, are priceless, as are both of
their spoken words to one another. Learn the kind of work the Lessins
do to help others with issues such as sexual healing and emotional
blocks to sex in their private counseling. This show models how
easily true expanded love can be made! Plus, find out how they
connect their work to planetary healing.

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Transcript


Dr. Patti Taylor: Welcome to the Expanded Lovemaking show. I'm your
host, Dr. Patti Taylor of Expanded Lovemaking dot com, and I teach
you how to give and receive way more pleasure than you ever dreamed
possible. Today on the show, we are talking about sharing the bliss
of all chakra lovemaking with a partner. Usually, we have guests on
talking about what they do. Today, we're so lucky to have two experts
on the show experiencing intimate yet powerful lovemaking and talking
to us as they go through it themselves. I'll be inviting you to join
in energetically and to take back juicy knowledge and energy into
your own lovemaking enjoyment. Our guests are Dr. Sasha Lessin, Dean
of the School of Tantra, with his wife, Janet Lessin, Professor of
Tantric Studies at the School of Tantra. So, welcome, Sasha and Janet
Lessin.

Janet Lessin: Aloha! Thank you for having us here.

Sasha Lessin: Aloha.

Dr. Patti Taylor: Hi, so, Dr. Sasha Lessin is a practicing
psychotherapist and relationship counselor for over thirty years who
brings many special skills to his counseling, including hypnotherapy,
holotropic breathing, healing and past-life regressions, spirit
releasement, and voice dialogue. Janet Lessin is an accomplished
writer and teacher of Tantra. Sasha and Janet teach their diverse
healing and spiritual paths together through their School of Tantra.
They're the authors of All Chakra Tantra and How to Really Love a
Woman, amongst many other incredible books and things that they've
created. They live in Maui, Hawaii, where they offer workshops,
ceremonies, singles events, couples events, residential retreats,
Tantra training of all sorts, and they also do counseling by phone. I
think our listeners will love this show because, in a real life
experience, you can feel the energy instead of just hearing about it.
And I've always loved being able to model myself after experts. So
today, then, we will find out all about All Chakra Tantra and have
some demonstrations of the Lessins' most requested teachings.
Hopefully some of them, anyway. Including creating an intimate female
ejaculatory lovemaking session. So let's get started! Let's find out
a little bit about All Chakra Tantra, and I think we need to start
out finding out what is a chakra. So hello, and can you tell us a
little about All Chakra Tantra?

Sasha Lessin: Oh, I'd love to, and I'll be posting this stuff on your
site, Patti, so people can get it. Tantra, one of its meanings
is "weaving." It means weaving all levels of your awareness, and
these levels we call "chakras." These are things within you and
between you and those you love. Think of the chakras with your body
parts, the bottom of your torso, genitals is the next one, belly,
heart, throat, brain, then the neocortex. And these are the parts
that make you aware of first security, the sexuality, then power,
love is the heart, talk the throat, clarity- that's the vision
center. And spiritual connection. Each of these chakras constitues an
inner dimension within you and an outer dimension between you and
your lovers, and in each chakra you have a number of sub-cells or
inner voices, energies concerned with the tasks of the chakra
involved. Now, in All Chakra Tantra, you center yourself at each
chakra with regard to the sub-cells active in the issues of concern
to that chakra so you have the benefit of consulting them all. That's
within you. And then you also center yourself in your lover
relationship, so you create a two-person, or multi-person if you're
polyamorous- an interpersonal entity. It could be diadic or triadic,
but it weaves your needs with those of your lovers, and you and your
lovers join together in an ocean of consciousness and merge with all
of the humanities. And of course- let's look at each one, really get
a feeling for it. The first chakra relates to your perineum, it
concerns your need to feel, belong, feel safe, secure, and to take
care of your inner child. And balance within yourself means being
able to take care of this vulnerable part, the part that feels
emotions and can be hurt so easily, and the part of you that protects
that, being able to have a balance. You can decide how emotional
you're going to be. It means that if you're in a Tantric
relationship, you help your mate feel emotionally and financially
secure and take care of each other's health. So that's the first
chakra. We do a whole lot of real, real integration, of getting past
the programs that our inner children have from their parents, the
parents in the real world, so that we can be free to be with our
lovers.

Dr. Patti Taylor: And the perineum is located where?

Sasha Lessin: It's between the genitals and the anal sphincter area.
This is how you relate to the earth. Your security, your sense of
belonging to life, belonging to a relationship. It's really critical
that our children, the sensitive part of us, be allowed to be present
in our lovemaking.

Dr. Patti Taylor: I would think without that active, that you
couldn't even really start your lovemaking.

Sasha Lessin: No, it's really hard. You have to distinguish your
lover from your dad and your mother so that you are just present with
what's real for you in the relationship. It's totally critical. We're
conditioned by so many little habits that we imprinted without even
thinking by seeing how our parents interacted, and by our society.
What we want to do is get free to really feel our sensorium and be
present with all of our emotions. And that means you have to feel
safe with your lover. That's the first chakra, and that's where the
bonding patterns take place, and how to keep sweet interaction going.
The second chakra is what we're going to deal with a bit today, which
is your sexual needs, and within you it's being able to express
yourself sexually and when to hold back. So in other words, for every
chakra we try to balance ourselves out, many aspects of us that are
concerned with in this case chakra two, the sexual chakra. We try to
center ourselves among the impulses we have so we can make
discriminating behaviors. For women, what we teach of the second
chakra, we teach women how to have ejaculatory orgasms, where a fluid-
anrida, it's called, it's alkaline -comes down from the urinary
bladder down the urethra and squirts or burbles out, accompanied by a
clitoral and vaginal orgasm, and it's really great. For a man we
teach complete and total ejaculatory control, which is really very
easy once you control your abdominal muscles. That's chakra two. The
third chakra relates to the belly-diaphragm area. We have power,
being able to lead or follow in the relationship, being able to let
the other person lead, and being able to encourage them to take
what's rightfully theirs in life. The fourth chakra- and we're going
to be demonstrating each one of these when we do our lovemaking in a
little bit, the re-enactment. But the fourth chakra is the heart
chakra, being able to give love and to get love, to not- being so
balanced within you means you're not into giving all the time so you
use up all your energy and feel resentful, or not just demanding all
the time so that you're so selfish no one wants to relate to you, but
the balance. The fifth chakra is the throat chakra, and here we're
concerned with expression, being able to both say what's really real
for you in your authenticity and being able to keep your mouth shut
when what you say won't be helpful, true, or kind. So, being able to
choose what we say and don't say, and to really be able to hear each
other. And then the next chakra, of course, is the brain chakra, and
this is where you have vision, where you see things, intuit, and the
intellect, where you think things. And all those, we ask that to be
present in All Chakra lovemaking, and that's really, really
important, too. Lots of times when you're making love you'll have
visions of your childhood or past lives or archetypes or movies your
saw. Let all those things happen. It really enriches everything. The
seventh chakra, your crown chakra, we think of as opening up and
allowing you to become spiritually one, so that you're not feeling
separate at all from the person you're making love with, but you are
one. You transcend your separate-self sense in that sense, so you're
not just identified with little you and not just identified with your
mate, but you identify with everything in the world, and that is the
spiritual dimension that we seek. And there's a little chant that
goes with it. And we're going to show you how we bring all that stuff
into our lovemaking.

Dr. Patti Taylor: Wow, that's really exciting, and I'm really looking
forward to this. I think a lot of our listeners would love to be
having that kind of fully integrated, alive on all levels kind of
lovemaking.

Sasha Lessin: Cool. Yeah, we love to share that, and also on the site
we have a thing that you can do by yourself where you feel each
chakra, where you empower your inner child, you empower your sexual
part. You go through each one of these. There's the chant you can do
yourself looking in a mirror or, as we'll be doing in a little bit,
with one lover putting their legs around the hips of the other and
looking into each other's eyes and then making these sounds called
the Bija Mantra. These Sanskrit sounds that activate these chakras
doing blessings. We'll be doing that after the break.

Dr. Patti Taylor: Okay, cool. Well, I know this is going to be sort
of the short version of what could take possibly hours, so I thank
you for- but I guess you could do this in a long version of a short
version, so let's go ahead and give it a roll here. I'm all juicy and
waiting to let it go.

Janet Lessin: Okay. So, we begin with the setup. While the woman is
taking a bath and preparing herself for her Tantric ritual, her
beloved prepares the space. And he puts out beautiful tapestries, or
lights incense and candles and brings flowers. He's interviewed her
beforehand so he knows what kind of music she likes, what kinds of
things she likes to relax, maybe some fine wine or something. At our
home, we're located high on West Maui Mountain, and for our date
today, we have the phone on today because we're talking to you, but
normally we turn off the phone, and we would lock all the doors, and
turn off the TV, and get into a sacred ritual space. In our location,
we're very fortunate. Our bed overlooks beautiful Maui Harbor, where
we see windsurfers on the north shore. Sasha has prepared our Tantric
lovemaking nest, and there's tapestries showing deities making love
and he's put down all these wonderful, comfy pillows, and lots of
towels so that when the woman- when I -eventually ejaculate, I won't
be worried about wetting the bed.

Sasha Lessin: If she wets the bed, it's the man's reponsibility to
sleep in the wet spot after. So what we do, way before we even
connect like this, we take the time to share our emotions, so we
makes sure there's no unfinished emotional business that hasn't been
resolved and we can be fully present. Then we sit in this- it's
called "yab yung" position, it's got her legs over mine. And now we
breathe in and out at the same time and gaze in one another's left
eyes. As I let my awareness flow through Janet's left eye, beyond her
face, beyond her present form, I go to her deep soul, to the core of
her. And she's doing the same for me. She meditates on experiencing
my essence through my left eye. It's a portal to my soul. And when I
feel her deepest essence, I can feel that contact, and then it
resonates within me. Her consciousness and mine, I can realize, are
identical. She is me and I am she and we are one. We experience this
existential love. Unity.

Janet Lessin: Then we move into syncopated breaths, where one is
breathing out and the other is breathing in. We're sharing breath.
And I breathe out through my mouth towards Sasha's nose, and he
inhales my breath through his nostrils. Then I inhale through my nose
and he breathes out through his mouth towards my nose. Each time I
inhale I say to myself, "He loves me." Each time I exhale into his
nose, I say to myself, "I love you." And he does the same meditation.

Sasha Lessin: I love you.

Janet Lessin: Back and forth. "I love you, you love me," with each
exhale and inhale.

Sasha Lessin: And now, as we keep gazing into each other's eyes, we
chant this ancient Sanskrit mantra. It's got seven syllable
words, "lam," "bam," "ram," "yam," "ham," and "ohm." Each syllable
will activate a different one of these chakras that we were talking
about. The "lam" will pump our perineum, the "bam" will invigorate
our genitals, "ram" empowers our bellies, "yam" heals our
hearts, "ham" frees our voices. Our third eye, from our head to the
occipit vibrates with "oh," and we think and intuit at the same time.
Then we chant "m" and our crowns open and unite us with all that is
and will be. When we complete the seven syllables, we tighten our PC
muscles and our belly muscles, pulse our anuses, and imagine energy
flowing from the tip of our spine, the bottom, up through our bodies,
out our crowns, where our energies meet. So we're going to chant
these, and if you want to and it's safe to do so, you can even chant
them with them, and they are "lam, bam, ram, yam, ham, and ohm." So
here we go.

Sasha and Janet Together: Lam, bam, ram, yam, ham, oh, m.

Sasha Lessin: Belly hold until you feel this whole field of energy,
baby.

Janet Lessin: So we're vibrating together, sweetheart, in every one
of our chakras.

Sasha Lessin: Oh, sweetheart, thank you for letting me worship and
adore you. I delight in serving you, and I love relating this
intimately. May my adoration heal hurts I have caused you or others
have caused you. May our hearts unite, and may we become one with the
universe. What would you like to say to consecrate the worship I
offer you, darling?

Janet Lessin: Sweetheart, I love how you take the time to pleasure
and honor who I am. You slow things down and listen to me kindly.
Your love compels me until time is slow or all stands still. And
nothing else seems to exist but you and me, as we become one with the
infinite and all that there is. You help me to evolve, grow, expand
in my path to consciousness. I appreciate how you meet me and are so
present, touch me sweetly and softly, and speak these wonderful words
to me as I dissolve into higher states of consciousness, and from
there I can see other worlds and other realms and dimensions, and
find new ways of being and becoming a more loving self. Thank you, my
love.

Sasha Lessin: Okay, honey, I'm going to lie you down on your back. I
wanted to dedicate my intention in this connect. I'm going to put
first my left hand on your heart, there. You put your hand on top of
mine. My right hand is going to be on each one of your chakras as I
bless each. These are called mudras, it's to put you in
the "moodras," so to speak. So first, I put my hand lightly on your
perineum. Pulse your anal sphincter, honey. Sweetheart, I love you, I
want you to feel your base, to enjoy health, safety, and security. I
want you to know you belong and please, may your inner child be
present in this lovemaking. Feel the energy, feel the energy. Now I'm
going to touch your labia. I love you at your yoni- that's Sanskrit
for "vagina" -and bless you sensually. May you be sensual, creative,
and sexual. May your goddess of sensuality, the second chakra
goddess, be present for this trice. Now I'm going to touch your
belly. I love you in your power chakra. Take what's yours,
sweetheart. May the goddess of strength enjoy the sensual touch we
share at your genital chakra. Now I'm going to put both hands on your
heart. I send you love. May you feel the touch with pleasure. May
your romantic subpersonality enjoy this experience. Now the back of
your neck with my right hand. I love you, may you say your thoughts,
make sounds, and express as you connect with me. I'm going to touch
your brow. I celebrate how you understand and intuit. I invite your
visionary to give you images and insight as I stroke your grotto. And
lastly I touch the top of your head. I love you and merge with you.
May your spiritual self be present and may you experience unity with
the universe. And now, sweetheart- oh, this feels so good -I'd like
to give you a gentle massage all over. I'm going to especially rub
the grasillus muscles- that is, the muscles on the inside of each of
your thighs -because massaging this grasillus muscle also stimulates
the lateral ends of your hidden clitoral tissues. There we go. Feel
that?

Janet Lessin: Yeah.

Sasha Lessin: Now your belly muscles, just above the pubic bone, so
that the energy can flow from your power chakra- that's the third
chakra -down from your navel to your genital chakra. It takes a
while. We do a long massage. So we'll just jump to the chase, here,
and I'll say to Janet...I'd really like to give some focused touch to
your temple of love, honey.

Janet Lessin: Okay. Please, please do.

Sasha Lessin: I'm going to massage, then I'm going to kiss your
genital drapes and the valance, so to speak, over your pearl-
clitoral tip. I want you to make sounds and direct me with words or
sounds, give me feedback. I'm going to lick and stroke. I won't be
able to talk soon, but what I'll be doing is I'll be lightly stroking
her outer labia. Relaxing her clitoral hood-

Dr. Patti Taylor: Before we do that, can I just jump in for a second,
before I hop on a plane to Hawaii? First thing I want to say is that
it's totally astonishing, and we are just going to have to pause for
break. Can you, like, hang out in that space for a moment?

Sasha Lessin: Sure, I'll just be sure not to rub her the wrong way.

Dr. Patti Taylor: I don't think that's possible. But we do have to
stop for a quick break, to support our sponsors. You guys just hang
out there. I'm shaking from head to toe, so it won't be a problem for
me. This is Dr. Patti Taylor, and I'm with Sasha and Janet Lessin in
their magical space, and we will be right back. You can learn more
about Sasha and Janet at www.schooloftantra.com.

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Dr. Patti Taylor: We're back, and we are talking about sharing the
bliss of All Chakra Lovemaking with a partner. We were talking about
the All Chakra Tantra blessing, and now we are going into the female
ejaculatory orgasm. Why don't you just keep going?

Sasha: Okay. While we've had the break, I've been stroking her labia,
and gently, gently rolling the clitoral hood around the crown itself.
And I notice, now, that her vaginal lips are starting to swell. The
outer lips are swelling and now I can see the beautiful little inner
lips. I trace circles, spirals, horizontals, verticals, diagonals,
figure eights on them with my finger. I alternate long and short
strokes. Playful. Tap, rub, knead. It takes a lot of air time, but we
would do this for about fifteen minutes until the clitoral hood
itself starts to push back and I can see the tip of the clitoris
itself, and then I say...sweetheart, would you like me to polish your
pearl?

Janet Lessin: Oh, yes. Oh-ho, yes.

Sasha Lessin: First I blow on your genitals. It's really important
not to blow inside the vagina because it's an anaerobic system, but I
just want to make some hot air on the outside, little baby kisses on
the clitoris. I'm going to twirl my tongue around the crown and lick
your labia and reach softly into your yoni with my fingers. All the
time, even though I'm down here, I'm looking into your eyes. I
salivate as much as I can to really lubricate your orifice.

Janet Lessin: Ah, yes. Thank you. What I'm experiencing right now-
I've got to come back into consciousness in order to talk to you -is
I'm not really thinking per se, but I'm evolving into this higher
state of consciousness. And Sasha and I are divine, sacred, twin
souls but I know the way. He's taken me there endless, numerous
times. So here I'm experiencing pure pleasure. It's a state of total
bliss, like a continuous orgasmic state where one orgasm blends into
another, and I become one with my beloved Sasha. I recognize that we
are eternal beings, that we've always been together and always will
be. And then I become one with my animal friends, and nature, the
island of Maui, the earth, the solar system, out to the cosmos and
eventually I feel my oneness with Source, that divine, infinite space
of love and light, and I'm simultaneously feeling my oneness with
Sasha here in the physical plane. So I've transcended and I've
brought Heaven to earth. And he comes into his oneness with me, and
he feels it just as if it's happening to him.

Sasha Lessin: Oh, you bet, baby. I'm taking my mouth off of her
clitoris for a minute to ask a question. I would like to enter your
sacred cave with my right ring finger. Would you like that, honey?

Janet Lessin: Oh, yes, lover. Please take me even higher.

Sasha Lessin: Okay, so I lick my finger so it's quite moist, and I
place the tip of my fingerpad just inside the vaginal opening. Now
pull my finger in, honey.

Janet Lessin: Okay.

Sasha Lessin: I feel the muscles pulsing on my finger. Now I'm going
to curl my fingerpad inside your yoni towards your navel and back
towards your inner leg so it rests gently on your G-spot area, just
behind the pubic bone. Let's breathe together. I'm going to keep my
hand still, and I want you to just to imagine that my finger reaches
inside all the way to your heart. Okay, now I'm going to start
a "c'mere" motion with my finger, taking the pad from the cervix to
the orifice. Slowly, back and forth. From the top of your cave to the
cervix, to the cave's opening. And all the while, I'm going to keep
kissing your pearl and lapping your labia, releasing lots of saliva.
This would go on for some time. Then I start turning my wrist from
side to side, and I trace a crescent over Janet's G-spot. Then, very
soft and light at first, I sweep, turning my wrist from up to down,
from the left half of your cave. Slowly I skim the front of my right
finger from the cave roof to its floor and the outside door, and then
I'm going to have to take my right ring finger and put my left finger
inside. Tben I can get the whole other side of your yoni roof.

Janet Lessin: Yeah. Well, after a few minutes, Sasha changes his
position, so he eases his back and neck, and he rubs and taps and
touches all over inside my vagina. He strokes different levels,
different depths, finding the pressure. He alters his speed, and he
goes in and out, and traces the throbbing veins and the arteries, and
presses gently all the way to the bone in each part of my sacred cave.

Sasha Lessin: Sweetheart, would you like me to pet you with two
fingers inside?

Janet Lessin: Yes, please.

Sasha Lessin: Okay, so now I move my fingers from the cervix- I get
right between my two fingers toward the orifice, and I have in my
fingers- I can feel through the intervening flesh, I can feel the
inner clitoris, and also the urethral sponge. I can feel the sponge,
which surrounds the urethra and goes from the urinary bladder to the
urinary viatus where the urine comes out. The tissue gets rough. You
can feel it descending, it's about the size of a little finger now.
It's getting quite stimulated. The area just behind the pubic bone is
swelling. This is the so-called G-spot area. That's it, that's it. Do
I got it?

Janet Lessin: Yes, you have the right spot, sweetheart. If you keep
going like that, in short order I can ejaculate.

Sasha Lessin: Great! Push your uterus out like you're delivering a
baby. Push out, honey.

Janet Lessin: Thank you, sweetheart.

Sasha Lessin: Wow, that's great, honey! Wow! Oh, Janet's ejaculating,
squirting ounces of anrida. Divine nectar! Now's where I say your
affirmations, honey. You're beautiful! Forever young! I love you
forever! You're coming into your power!

Janet Lessin: I love you, sweetheart.

Sasha Lessin: This is so beautiful, sweetheart.

Janet Lessin: Thank you.

Sasha Lessin: Now let me just hold you a bit. Let me come up here.
I'm going to keep my hand in your yoni, the palm of my hand across
your mons. I love you so much.

Janet Lessin: I love you so much. So, in a normal Tantric day, we
would just keep continuing.

Sasha Lessin: The easiest time to have an orgasm is-

Janet Lessin: Right after you have an orgasm.

Sasha Lessin: What is important when a woman has an ejaculatory
orgasm is not to demand intercourse. If she wants to have intercourse
next you can, but what's really nice is to just, if you're the giver,
to just be there quietly and just see what she wants to say if that's
the entire experience. Because usually when a person has an orgasm
like this, it has clitoral and vaginal, as well as a urinal
ejaculatory aspects, and it's so overwhelming that silence and
meditation is just perfect because you feel at one with your mate and
you feel at one with the universe.

Janet Lessin: It's a very blissful state, but it's also very
vulnerable. So it's important for the giver to be sensitive about his
own needs and not push an agenda. Just be there for his beloved so
that she can reconnect and find all the pieces of her soul and
reconnect with the tissues of her body. And that sometimes takes a
long time, especially if someone had a history of abuse of any kind.

Sasha: Yeah. In a more advanced Tantra, I would put some lubricant on
fingers of my other hand and slowly work those fingers into the base
chakra. Then I would move the fingers in different insane patterns
than the fingers I have in the yoni, my tongue on the clitoris, so
that I have many, many different stimulations going at the same time.
I would tap a little finger against the very tip of her lowest
vertebrae so that the kundolini, the energy from the tip of the
spine, starts to move up. I'm looking in her eyes, and saying
beautiful things. So we have all these things going at once, and then
I may take my other hand, my left hand, out of the base chakra, push
through the top, right underneath the navel, through the outside of
her skin. That's called "uniting the fingers," with my fingers inside
and the fingers outside of her belly go in different directions. I
move the entire clitoris, which is quite a large organ. You only see
the very teeny eighth of an inch or so of the clitoral tip, but
actually the clitoris goes back about an inch and a half into the
body, and then bifurcates, goes down each leg, so that this rubbing
that I did in the beginning of the grasillus muscle, which is one of
the ductor muscles of the leg. This massage of that grasillus was
also massaging the tip of the clitoris, which is a really large
organ. You don't know it, but you can sure feel it inside.

Dr. Patti Taylor: Wow. Well, that is...I just can't thank you enough
for sharing so...I know it's just a re-enactment, but still powerful
and intimate and very inspirational.

Janet Lessin: Thank you for inviting us to share.

Sasha Lessin: We love sharing. We should do it on TV for you sometime.

Dr. Patti Taylor: Well, you know, I wanted to say, I checked out your
website, and we'll give the link again in just a minute. But you have
some beautiful pictures on your website, including how to sit for the
lesson that we talked about in the first segment of the show. And you
have the gorgeous pictures that go along with the beautiful chakras,
and your website is a trip. I absolutely think everybody who listens
to the show should go to www.schooloftantra.com and just spend a day
there or, you know, an hour there, and just tool around and have some
fun with you guys. 'Cause there's just more there than you can
imagine. Anyway, we're going to have to take another break, just for
our sponsors. This is Dr. Patti Taylor, and I'm with Sasha and Janet
Lessin, and we will be right back. And as I said, you can learn more,
and definitely we'll have a great time learning more about Sasha and
Janet. They do so many things. They teach, they have residential
stuff, they write books. Schooloftantra dot com. You can also visit
our episode page and we'll put up some links for them and their new
book All Chakra Tantra.

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Dr. Patti Taylor: We're back, and we are talking about sharing the
bliss of All Chakra Lovemaking with a partner. So, before the break,
we were talking about- I don't know if "talking about" is the right
word. We were in the throes of the most exquisite, intimate sharing
imaginable of your experiencing this gorgeous female ejaculatory
orgasm, and I think I'm still almost speechless with the beauty of it
all. I really want to thank you for an incredible gift that you've
given me and my listeners. Our listeners.

Janet Lessin: Our pleasure.

Dr. Patti Taylor: So, just to kind of close down the show a little,
here, I just want to just talk a little bit about what you do with
the people that go all the way to Maui or people that live in Maui.
But, you know, how you empower people. Who are you? Let's find out a
little about you.

Sasha Lessin: One of the most important things that we do is while
we're doing- instead of just going into merely the pleasure part,
which we've done, we take the time to slowly explore every centimeter
of the inside of the yoni and map where it feels good at different
levels of pressure and where there's a numbness or lack of feeling.
Wherever there's numbness or lack of feeling, I say free associate,
and that's when people start to re-live unfinished emotional things.
They're creating blocks to their ejaculatory orgasms and they will
actually start to re-live things that they've forgotten. And I have
them express more than they expressed in the original situation and
then have an imaginary scenario where they act it out so they get
another program that allows them to feel everywhere. And then I move
my finger back to where it felt good in the yoni and then back to
where it felt numb until that feels good, too, until by stimulus
generalization the entire yoni is like a G-spot and the person
doesn't have any blocks to full emotional and sexual feeling.

Dr. Patti Taylor: Okay, so one thing you do for sure is you help
people wake up their potential for full-on orgasmic expression.

Janet Lessin: Right, if they have any emotional or psychological
issues or trauma it'll block their chakras and they won't be able to
experience their sexuality to its fullest potential. So we do a lot
of cowpering, we do a lot of communications, we help couples grow
closer to each other, we help singles learn how to attract and learn
how to keep their beloved. We use a lot of different
psychotechnologies, and communication techniques, like non-body
communication, voice dialogue, gestalt therapy, existential and past-
life and childhood re-scripting therapies. These are all part of our
Tantra school. People can come and learn how to be Tantric cowpers
and therapists and teachers on all different levels. Some people like
to give workshops and conferences. Some like to do therapy,
individually or couples or in small groups. So Sasha Lessin has been
a therapist, cowper for about forty years. He's just one of the best
on the planet and I'm so blessed to be married to him.

Dr. Patti Taylor: You have stuff going on all the time and it's such
a wide variety of things. Even to get to be around you is just a
cornucopia, an abundance of knowledge pouring out of the two of you.
Do you have any examples of somebody that you've helped recently, and
what happened?

Sasha Lessin: Let's just tell you the story of Janet and how this
worked for her.

Janet Lessin: Oh...well, I wasn't prepared for that. I was very luded
in my childhood. There was a lot of rape and incest issues, so I was
kind of on the way out, I was dying and I'd been to all these
different therapists, and when I met Dr. Lessin we started doing the
yoni work and the- I had what was called "mecunhe," I had a blocked
issue about an incest-rape issue. And once that came forth, it
reversed my physical ails, and once that happened for me I devoted my
life to learning this so I could help other people. So as a
consequence we give people all the time to have these issues, they're
not sure what's going on with them sexually, they don't know why
they're depressed or they're having reactions to where they're
stifling their creativity. They get into incredible negative bonding
patterns with each other. Go ahead, honey. What did you want to say?

Sasha Lessin: It's just so gratifying to realize that you're not
stuck, that you can re-program anything to allow yourself all the
pleasures that life has to hold. And the interesting thing about
ejaculatory orgasms is that since it comes from the urinary bladder,
even people that have had hysterectomies can have incredibly intense
ejaculatory orgasms.

Dr. Patti Taylor: That sounds so amazing. And you combine it with a
trip to Hawaii on top of that, right?

Janet Lessin: Yes, so you want Tantra to become a lifestyle that
affects all avenues of your life. It'll help you in your job, and
transcend over to all your relationships. Your family, friends.

Sasha Lessin: We really think that making love is the alternative to
violence. The evidence is overwhelming that if you don't abuse or hit
your children, and if you allow good sex among people without a lot
of restrictions, then people do not engage in violent crime or war.
So make love, not war. And we teach you how to really make love well.

Dr. Patti Taylor: That's really beautiful. Well, we're almost out of
time, so I just have time for one final question each. So, if you
could leave our listeners today with one final thought, what will it
be? And you can decide who goes first.

Sasha Lessin: Go first, darling.

Janet Lessin: Be true to yourself. In Tantra we encourage authentic
communication. Learn how to speak close to the truth and sometimes
you may have consequences but at least you'll set yourself free. Free
to be who you really are.

Sasha Lessin: Listen to each other. When your lover is emotional,
don't just shut it off, but encourage it. Let their feelings out.
Empathize with those feelings. Find out what they need, and then ask
what you can do to help meet those needs.

Dr. Patti Taylor: Wow. Thank you so much. That's very, very
beautiful, heartfelt advice, but why am I not surprised? I just
deeply want to thank you for revealing of yourselves and essentially
modeling for me and for all of us the beautiful stuff you had to
share today. I want to remind everyone that we will have links up on
our episode page to a handout that you can actually download so that
you can have the bija mantras and take them home and practice them
with your lover, because it sounds like that would be a great way to
kick off any fabulous lovemaking session. And I also want to say that
these beautiful mantras seem to be at the bottom of pretty much every
page of your website as well. So you will be able to go to our
episodes page for this show and get a handout, as well as finding out
about their book, All Chakra Tantra and How to Love a Woman.

Sasha Lessin: And also for those people that have alternate
relationships, that is something we really love to do. You don't have
to be conventional. You get to choose for yourself who make love with
and how.

Dr. Patti Taylor: Right. So you are very, very diverse in your
talents. Thank you once again for coming on the show. I had a
phenomenal time and experience today.

Janet Lessin: Thank you for having us.

[All exchange goodbyes.]

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